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> <channel><title>Single Mom &#124; Single Mom Blog &#124; Ms. Single Mama &#187; bad boy complex</title> <atom:link href="http://mssinglemama.com/tag/bad-boy-complex/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://mssinglemama.com</link> <description>Single Mom Dating? Real advice from a real single mom.</description> <lastBuildDate>Thu, 24 May 2012 12:45:42 +0000</lastBuildDate> <language>en</language> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1</generator> <item><title>Butterflies vs. Lead Weights</title><link>http://mssinglemama.com/2010/02/21/butterflies-vs-lead-weights/</link> <comments>http://mssinglemama.com/2010/02/21/butterflies-vs-lead-weights/#comments</comments> <pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 23:02:42 +0000</pubDate> <dc:creator>mssinglemama</dc:creator> <category><![CDATA[John Bear]]></category> <category><![CDATA[relationships]]></category> <category><![CDATA[single mom]]></category> <category><![CDATA[single mom dating advice]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Single Mom Dating Tips]]></category> <category><![CDATA[single mom relationship]]></category> <category><![CDATA[single moms]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Uncategorized]]></category> <category><![CDATA[avoiding bad boys]]></category> <category><![CDATA[bad boy complex]]></category> <category><![CDATA[bad boys]]></category> <category><![CDATA[butterflies]]></category> <category><![CDATA[dating advice]]></category> <category><![CDATA[did I lose my mr. good enough]]></category> <category><![CDATA[in love]]></category> <category><![CDATA[love]]></category> <category><![CDATA[marry him! Lori Gottlieb]]></category> <category><![CDATA[mr. good enough]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Mr. Right]]></category> <category><![CDATA[nice guys]]></category> <guid
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href="http://mssinglemama.com/2009/05/10/the-beginning/">When I met John Bear</a> I didn&#8217;t have non-stop butterflies jumping around in my stomach.</p><p>I didn&#8217;t ache or pine for him.</p><p>I didn&#8217;t daydream about him, waiting for him to call.</p><p>Instead, I felt like a level-headed woman, slowly falling for someone who swept me away with his generosity, kind spirit, sweet surprises and constant mantra, &#8220;I&#8217;m not going anywhere.&#8221;</p><p>And he didn&#8217;t go anywhere. Not then.</p><p><img
class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-5341" title="True Love" src="http://mssinglemama.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/JohnBear3.jpg" alt="True Love" width="525" height="350" /></p><p>Not even then.</p><p><img
class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-3687" title="suitshop" src="http://mssinglemama.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/suitshop.jpg" alt="suitshop" width="506" height="337" />And not now.</p><p>And I don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s going to change anytime soon. We are completely and utterly into each other, but in a new kind of way (for both of us).</p><p>Earlier this weekend a single mom girlfriend of mine was telling me about a recent nice guy she&#8217;s dating who pampers her with dinners, gifts, nice words and kind actions but there&#8217;s something missing.</p><p>&#8220;I just don&#8217;t feel the butterflies,&#8221; she said.</p><p>And while this guy may not be a keeper, I still had to slap down some advice in hopes of breaking her in for a future of dating only nice guys, or as I like to call them &#8211; real men.<span
id="more-5335"></span></p><p>&#8220;You don&#8217;t have to feel butterflies right away. They&#8217;re like a drug, clouding your judgment. You should feel lead weights and they drop once every few weeks. They mean something, you feel calm, happy&#8230; content.&#8221;</p><p>This morning John Bear, Benjamin and I headed to Barnes &amp; Noble. On the way in I snapped up a copy of Lori Gottlieb&#8217;s <em>Marry Him</em>. When I first read<a
href="http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200803/single-marry"> the article</a> that sparked <a
href="http://www.amazon.com/Marry-Him-Case-Settling-Enough/dp/0525951512/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1266792362&amp;sr=8-1">the book </a>I wrote <a
href="http://mssinglemama.com/2008/05/07/did-i-lose-my-mr-good-enough/">this blog post</a> exploring some of her ideas. Her words had touched a few nerves but I listened and digested her thoughts wondering if I had just lost my Mr. Good Enough. In my case, Kris. Mr. Good Enough, Gottlieb argued was the guy many &#8220;picky&#8221; single women pass up on while searching for Mr. Right, Mr. Perfect 10, Mr. Knight in Shining Armor. By eliminating men because they were balding, or had a weird twitching eye &#8211; whatever &#8211; she argued we were setting ourselves up to be alone, <em>forever</em>.</p><p>I didn&#8217;t mind the thought of being alone forever and wrote:</p><blockquote><p>Lori Gottlieb can husband shop all she wants, but this single mom is  not ready for one again.</p><p>But, if I do meet someone who wants to grab my hand and pull me off  of that cliff – I might reconsider. In otherwords, I may be a single mom  but I still need the sparks and there’s no way I’m settling.</p></blockquote><p>Now, well over one year later and 10 months into the greatest relationship I&#8217;ve ever been had, I have to say &#8211; I completely agree with her. But would I call John Bear my Mr. Good Enough? Did I settle? No way. I am still wrapped up in that warm blanket, soaking it all in &#8211; loving this and him like I never imagined. With that said, I don&#8217;t and have never felt with him the same kind of crazy butterflies and sparkage I felt with prior alpha-male, <a
href="http://mssinglemama.com/2008/08/15/the-bad-boy-complex/">bad boys</a>. This, I believe, is an incredibly positive thing.</p><p>I&#8217;ve already done the studly guy with the foreign accent who gives you millions upon millions of butterflies but no substance, no lead weights that drop into the pit of your stomach and knock the wind out of you. So it&#8217;s not that you&#8217;re settling for Mr. Good Enough, I think that&#8217;s the touch-point Gottlieb gets everyone riled up on &#8211; instead, it&#8217;s about choosing to settle down with a man for all of the right reasons, not the wrong ones.</p><p>I think Carrie Sloan of LemonDrop.com nailed it in <a
href="http://www.lemondrop.com/2010/02/03/marry-him-lori-gottlieb-should-you-settle/">her review or Marry Him!:</a></p><blockquote><p>The thing is, the most unsettling part of the book for me was the word  &#8220;settle,&#8221; because, despite the title, that&#8217;s not exactly what Gottlieb&#8217;s  espousing. She&#8217;s simply suggesting you not walk in the shoes of her  younger self: A very particular girl who wrote guys off  indiscriminately, for all the wrong reasons, for too long. And, when you  are ready to settle down, look for someone who&#8217;s going to be a good  partner, rather than, say, a master sexter with bedroom eyes.</p></blockquote><p>And then she added in regards to her recent marriage,</p><blockquote><p>I don&#8217;t think either one of us thinks we&#8217;ve settled. It&#8217;s more that we  grew up. And I think all Gottlieb&#8217;s urging you to do is use your perch  on the bar to scan the room for nice guys you might otherwise overlook  &#8212; because you might find they grow on you when the time comes not to  settle, but to settle down.</p></blockquote><p>After I put her book down I took a seat on the floor by the train table at Barnes and Noble and watched as John Bear tossed a giggling Benjamin up and down in the air. The nicest guy in the world who happens to be earning his way deeper and deeper into my heart, one lead weight at a time.</p><p>Forget the butterflies. Seriously. Butterflies are for teenagers.</p><p>Back up reading (old posts I&#8217;ve written on all of this):</p><p><a
href="http://mssinglemama.com/2009/12/17/the-must-have-man-list/">Do you still believe in the one? I certainly hope not.<br
/> My Must Have Man List<br
/> </a><a
href="http://mssinglemama.com/2008/05/07/did-i-lose-my-mr-good-enough/">Did I lose my Mr. Good Enough?<br
/> </a><a
href="http://mssinglemama.com/2009/06/01/that-couple/">That Couple</a><a
href="http://mssinglemama.com/2008/05/07/did-i-lose-my-mr-good-enough/"></a></p><p>Related posts:<ol><li><a
href='http://mssinglemama.com/2009/05/27/unexpected-reality/' rel='bookmark' title='Unexpected reality'>Unexpected reality</a></li><li><a
href='http://mssinglemama.com/2009/07/29/whispers/' rel='bookmark' title='Whispers'>Whispers</a></li><li><a
href='http://mssinglemama.com/2010/01/11/co-parenting/' rel='bookmark' title='Co-Parenting and Mrs. Brady'>Co-Parenting and Mrs. Brady</a></li></ol></p>]]></content:encoded> <wfw:commentRss>http://mssinglemama.com/2010/02/21/butterflies-vs-lead-weights/feed/</wfw:commentRss> <slash:comments>25</slash:comments> </item> <item><title>The Bad Boy Complex</title><link>http://mssinglemama.com/2008/08/15/the-bad-boy-complex/</link> <comments>http://mssinglemama.com/2008/08/15/the-bad-boy-complex/#comments</comments> <pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 13:45:58 +0000</pubDate> <dc:creator>mssinglemama</dc:creator> <category><![CDATA[Dating Single Moms]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Dating, sex and love]]></category> <category><![CDATA[single mom]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Single Mom Dating Tips]]></category> <category><![CDATA[bad boy complex]]></category> <category><![CDATA[dating advice for single mom]]></category> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://mssinglemama.com/?p=948</guid> <description><![CDATA[I just don't get it. My ex-husband was definitely a bad boy. Tattoos from head to toe, actually to his butt. He passed out at a party and someone tattooed a Care Bear heart on his ass. But I didn't see that until it was too late. The bad boys can disguise themselves but as single moms that can be bad news!
Related posts:<ol><li><a
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href='http://mssinglemama.com/2008/01/30/good-guys-do-exist/' rel='bookmark' title='Good guys do exist.'>Good guys do exist.</a></li><li><a
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href="http://mssinglemama.com/11/chaos-and-calm/">Chaos and Calm</a>, in reference to Kate Hudson and Chris Robinson and how I can<a
href="http://www.easternwarrior.blogspot.com"><img
class="alignright size-medium wp-image-949" title="tattoo" src="http://mssinglemama.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/tattoo-199x300.jpg" alt="" width="199" height="300" /></a> relate&#8230;</p><p><strong>To that bad boy complex thing.</strong></p><p>I just don&#8217;t get it. My ex-husband was definitely a bad boy. Tattoos from head to toe, actually to his butt. He passed out at a party and someone tattooed a Care Bear heart on his ass. But I didn&#8217;t see that until it was too late. (Not the tattoo, the fact that he was a bad boy). You see&#8230; the bad boys can disguise themselves.</p><p>They start out warm and fuzzy, lots of compliments honed over time after their experiences with many women. Or they&#8217;re just completely rough from the start &#8211; sparing in their compliments and leaving you craving more.</p><p>Over on my old blog Vanessa from <a
href="http://www.datingblog.youcangettheguy.com/">YouCanGettheGuy.com </a>left this fantastic comment:</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;OMG &#8211; the bad boy complex! Do you know HOW many women are absolutely wrecked by this same thing? I know I suffered from it for many years (and now consider myself in remission!).</p><p>You know what I think it is? Its all about attraction. We say we WANT the nice guy, but we are ATTRACTED to the bad boy. It like its evolution-based. Survival of the fittest, you know? the bad boy actually represents what we want our genetics to BE. He is the “alpha male”, the strong one, the survivor and the winner. The “nice guy” &#8211; who we want mentally, is not necessarily the strongest.&#8221;</p></blockquote><h3>I am also in Bad Boy remission.</h3><p><a
href="http://mssinglemama.com/20/nerds-make-better-lovers/">Kris was definitely a nerd</a>, but even nerds act like bad boys sometimes and that makes them hotter. WHY? <a
href="http://mssinglemama.com/20/the-great-dane/">Thomas </a>is definitely not a bad boy but he&#8217;s just as hot as the hottest bad boy. And even <a
href="http://mssinglemama.com/08/the-biker/">the Biker </a>was a big mush ball at heart despite his rough exterior. So I have yet to have a bad boy since becoming a single mom.</p><p>Sweet.</p><p>But the coast isn&#8217;t clear until the fat lady sings or until the single mom stops dating forever.</p><p><strong>Tell me about your Bad Boys and your theory on the Bad Boy Complex. What do you think about Vanessa&#8217;s comment?</strong></p><p>If you liked this post read <a
href="http://mssinglemama.com/2008/01/20/nerds-make-better-lovers/">Why Nerds Make Better Lovers.</a></p><p>Related posts:<ol><li><a
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href='http://mssinglemama.com/2008/01/30/good-guys-do-exist/' rel='bookmark' title='Good guys do exist.'>Good guys do exist.</a></li><li><a
href='http://mssinglemama.com/2008/02/12/getting-over-it/' rel='bookmark' title='Getting over it.'>Getting over it.</a></li></ol></p>]]></content:encoded> <wfw:commentRss>http://mssinglemama.com/2008/08/15/the-bad-boy-complex/feed/</wfw:commentRss> <slash:comments>40</slash:comments> </item> </channel> </rss>
