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> <channel><title>Comments on: Need a man? Look in mommy&#8217;s bed.</title> <atom:link href="http://mssinglemama.com/2008/03/30/need-a-man-look-in-mommys-bed/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://mssinglemama.com/2008/03/30/need-a-man-look-in-mommys-bed/</link> <description>Single Mom Dating? Real advice from a real single mom.</description> <lastBuildDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2012 00:59:02 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1</generator> <item><title>By: Single Mama 2</title><link>http://mssinglemama.com/2008/03/30/need-a-man-look-in-mommys-bed/#comment-47720</link> <dc:creator>Single Mama 2</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 02:23:50 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://mssinglemama.wordpress.com/?p=293#comment-47720</guid> <description>I recently stumble upon your blog only recently thus I&#039;m not sure if you would marry the John Bear for good. It&#039;s your life I know but it&#039;s somehow unpleasant to see your dating involve the little one. As you already aware by now, kids get involve emotionally with the men you&#039;re involving. Be it starting from resisting, getting close to attaching, it&#039;s pain for them to see someone they attached to are leaving. So imagine, how many time of their little heart get broken in each of your breaking up. I could barely see this.
Then again, your dilemma is real and pain as well. Are we confine to only the married one before showing him to the child? Not really. Following tips might be useful for single mama dating:
1) He must be deem a nice guy who adore you for you, which you did well by identifying it.
2) Someone who are serious about you and has the husband potential
3) Introduce the man officially to your child only when both you&#039;re ready to expose/to the child.
4) Be sure the child could click, which you has a successful one with Kris:).
5) Get feedback from the child if you should be seeing the man more often. but get them to prepare chances of losing him (get ready for the worst)
6) Be honest in the even if it&#039;s really broken up, the child must be well informed, which other mama had advise earlier. Bravo for this idea
7) Remember, they deserve to know the truth and make them involve in bit decision making so to induce responsibility and prepare for the consequence
8) Most of all, gather feedback from them from time to time if they are comfortable in relationship like this.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently stumble upon your blog only recently thus I&#8217;m not sure if you would marry the John Bear for good. It&#8217;s your life I know but it&#8217;s somehow unpleasant to see your dating involve the little one. As you already aware by now, kids get involve emotionally with the men you&#8217;re involving. Be it starting from resisting, getting close to attaching, it&#8217;s pain for them to see someone they attached to are leaving. So imagine, how many time of their little heart get broken in each of your breaking up. I could barely see this.</p><p>Then again, your dilemma is real and pain as well. Are we confine to only the married one before showing him to the child? Not really. Following tips might be useful for single mama dating:</p><p>1) He must be deem a nice guy who adore you for you, which you did well by identifying it.<br
/> 2) Someone who are serious about you and has the husband potential<br
/> 3) Introduce the man officially to your child only when both you&#8217;re ready to expose/to the child.<br
/> 4) Be sure the child could click, which you has a successful one with Kris:).<br
/> 5) Get feedback from the child if you should be seeing the man more often. but get them to prepare chances of losing him (get ready for the worst)<br
/> 6) Be honest in the even if it&#8217;s really broken up, the child must be well informed, which other mama had advise earlier. Bravo for this idea<br
/> 7) Remember, they deserve to know the truth and make them involve in bit decision making so to induce responsibility and prepare for the consequence<br
/> <img
src='http://mssinglemama.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt='8)' class='wp-smiley' /> Most of all, gather feedback from them from time to time if they are comfortable in relationship like this.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: mommypie</title><link>http://mssinglemama.com/2008/03/30/need-a-man-look-in-mommys-bed/#comment-890</link> <dc:creator>mommypie</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 04:51:02 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://mssinglemama.wordpress.com/?p=293#comment-890</guid> <description>MSM - to answer your question - we dated for about a year, beginning when she was about 20 months ... so that makes it 20 months old to 32 months old, which is ... roughly two and a half? Sorry, it&#039;s late and my math skills ... uh, never existed. And yep, she just turned four, but still remembers ... *sigh*</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MSM &#8211; to answer your question &#8211; we dated for about a year, beginning when she was about 20 months &#8230; so that makes it 20 months old to 32 months old, which is &#8230; roughly two and a half? Sorry, it&#8217;s late and my math skills &#8230; uh, never existed. And yep, she just turned four, but still remembers &#8230; *sigh*</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: mediakemi</title><link>http://mssinglemama.com/2008/03/30/need-a-man-look-in-mommys-bed/#comment-889</link> <dc:creator>mediakemi</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 16:24:48 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://mssinglemama.wordpress.com/?p=293#comment-889</guid> <description>http://celebritysinglemoms.blogspot.com/2008/03/once-again-congrats-to-ms-single-mama.html
Your reign ends today and I thank you for being our dynamic Single Mom of the Month!!!
Kemi at CELEBRITY SINGLE MOMS
http://celebritysinglemoms.blogspot.com</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a
href="http://celebritysinglemoms.blogspot.com/2008/03/once-again-congrats-to-ms-single-mama.html" rel="nofollow">http://celebritysinglemoms.blogspot.com/2008/03/once-again-congrats-to-ms-single-mama.html</a></p><p>Your reign ends today and I thank you for being our dynamic Single Mom of the Month!!!</p><p>Kemi at CELEBRITY SINGLE MOMS<br
/> <a
href="http://celebritysinglemoms.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://celebritysinglemoms.blogspot.com</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: QTMama</title><link>http://mssinglemama.com/2008/03/30/need-a-man-look-in-mommys-bed/#comment-888</link> <dc:creator>QTMama</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 16:13:21 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://mssinglemama.wordpress.com/?p=293#comment-888</guid> <description>All the answers are in my blog.  :)  My girl is five.
I postjacked, and I&#039;m sorry.  I&#039;m tired and totally have PMS!
I don&#039;t think that you should call it quits.  It is entirely possible that things will not end badly.  All we can do, right now, it take one day at a time.  Sometimes I wish I had an instruction manual tho.  I guess that is what we are writing by way of these blogs.  :)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All the answers are in my blog. <img
src='http://mssinglemama.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> My girl is five.</p><p>I postjacked, and I&#8217;m sorry.  I&#8217;m tired and totally have PMS!</p><p>I don&#8217;t think that you should call it quits.  It is entirely possible that things will not end badly.  All we can do, right now, it take one day at a time.  Sometimes I wish I had an instruction manual tho.  I guess that is what we are writing by way of these blogs. <img
src='http://mssinglemama.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: mssinglemama</title><link>http://mssinglemama.com/2008/03/30/need-a-man-look-in-mommys-bed/#comment-887</link> <dc:creator>mssinglemama</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 15:53:38 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://mssinglemama.wordpress.com/?p=293#comment-887</guid> <description>Mommy Pie  - how old was MP when she last saw him? How long were you together? She&#039;s 4 now, right?
QT Mama - I know! This is my worst fear...same question to you - how old is your daughter? How long were you with the guy, etc.
Well...one good thing is that Kris is a good one ... not the type to hurt us in anyway and there are no intentions of marriage.
And to Cara  .. . Kris and I never, ever kiss in front of Benjamin. We learned this the hard way when Benjamin actually started trying to make out with us. (here&#039;s the entry on it:
http://mssinglemama.wordpress.com/2007/11/27/one-side-effect-of-being-a-dating-single-mamamy-baby-is-trying-to-make-out-with-me/
Anyway -  the only thing Benjamin sees are standing hugs.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mommy Pie  &#8211; how old was MP when she last saw him? How long were you together? She&#8217;s 4 now, right?</p><p>QT Mama &#8211; I know! This is my worst fear&#8230;same question to you &#8211; how old is your daughter? How long were you with the guy, etc.</p><p>Well&#8230;one good thing is that Kris is a good one &#8230; not the type to hurt us in anyway and there are no intentions of marriage.</p><p>And to Cara  .. . Kris and I never, ever kiss in front of Benjamin. We learned this the hard way when Benjamin actually started trying to make out with us. (here&#8217;s the entry on it:</p><p><a
href="http://mssinglemama.wordpress.com/2007/11/27/one-side-effect-of-being-a-dating-single-mamamy-baby-is-trying-to-make-out-with-me/" rel="nofollow">http://mssinglemama.wordpress.com/2007/11/27/one-side-effect-of-being-a-dating-single-mamamy-baby-is-trying-to-make-out-with-me/</a></p><p>Anyway &#8211;  the only thing Benjamin sees are standing hugs.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: QTMama</title><link>http://mssinglemama.com/2008/03/30/need-a-man-look-in-mommys-bed/#comment-886</link> <dc:creator>QTMama</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 15:29:13 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://mssinglemama.wordpress.com/?p=293#comment-886</guid> <description>woops, typo.  Changed HIS mind.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>woops, typo.  Changed HIS mind.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: QTMama</title><link>http://mssinglemama.com/2008/03/30/need-a-man-look-in-mommys-bed/#comment-885</link> <dc:creator>QTMama</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 15:28:14 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://mssinglemama.wordpress.com/?p=293#comment-885</guid> <description>You know, I&#039;m going through this same thing right now.  We had talked of marriage, he did spend the night and she did see him in the mornings.  She asked him if he was going to marry mommy, he said yes.  And then he left.  Now it&#039;s me explaining to her that he for some reason that even I am not sure of, changed her mind.  It was MY intention to marry him, I thought it was his intention as well.  Things change, and now I&#039;m left wondering the same thing - how long do I date someone before she is to meet him?  When we talk of marriage?  Cuz that didn&#039;t work out so well for me last time.  And what happens in the next relationship?  I just don&#039;t know.  But I can say that for right now, she isn&#039;t seeing another man other than her daddy around here for one helluva long time.  We both need some time to heal.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, I&#8217;m going through this same thing right now.  We had talked of marriage, he did spend the night and she did see him in the mornings.  She asked him if he was going to marry mommy, he said yes.  And then he left.  Now it&#8217;s me explaining to her that he for some reason that even I am not sure of, changed her mind.  It was MY intention to marry him, I thought it was his intention as well.  Things change, and now I&#8217;m left wondering the same thing &#8211; how long do I date someone before she is to meet him?  When we talk of marriage?  Cuz that didn&#8217;t work out so well for me last time.  And what happens in the next relationship?  I just don&#8217;t know.  But I can say that for right now, she isn&#8217;t seeing another man other than her daddy around here for one helluva long time.  We both need some time to heal.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: mommypie</title><link>http://mssinglemama.com/2008/03/30/need-a-man-look-in-mommys-bed/#comment-884</link> <dc:creator>mommypie</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 06:58:39 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://mssinglemama.wordpress.com/?p=293#comment-884</guid> <description>Well, I&#039;m probably not the best to give advice on this, but the conundrum you find yourself in is exactly why I&#039;ve taken myself out of the dating pool for the time being.
I&#039;ve only dated one guy seriously since splitting with my daughter&#039;s father. She was two at the time. He spent time at the house - she never did see him in my bed, and had no idea there were ever sleepovers, but she did grow very attached.
When we decided to call it quits, she would ask where he was. I&#039;d just say he was at home, and that would be that. Not a big deal, really. But I was amazed that even a YEAR later, she would still occasionally ask. I thought for sure she&#039;d forget. Having him around definitely made an impression.
It&#039;s a complicated thing, to say the least, and unfortunately, there are no clear cut, black and white, absolutely right answers. Like Single Mom Seeking, I also applaud the two of you for your honest conversations. One way or the other, you&#039;ll work it out.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I&#8217;m probably not the best to give advice on this, but the conundrum you find yourself in is exactly why I&#8217;ve taken myself out of the dating pool for the time being.</p><p>I&#8217;ve only dated one guy seriously since splitting with my daughter&#8217;s father. She was two at the time. He spent time at the house &#8211; she never did see him in my bed, and had no idea there were ever sleepovers, but she did grow very attached.</p><p>When we decided to call it quits, she would ask where he was. I&#8217;d just say he was at home, and that would be that. Not a big deal, really. But I was amazed that even a YEAR later, she would still occasionally ask. I thought for sure she&#8217;d forget. Having him around definitely made an impression.</p><p>It&#8217;s a complicated thing, to say the least, and unfortunately, there are no clear cut, black and white, absolutely right answers. Like Single Mom Seeking, I also applaud the two of you for your honest conversations. One way or the other, you&#8217;ll work it out.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Cara</title><link>http://mssinglemama.com/2008/03/30/need-a-man-look-in-mommys-bed/#comment-883</link> <dc:creator>Cara</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 01:47:28 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://mssinglemama.wordpress.com/?p=293#comment-883</guid> <description>Blast! I just realised I gave you the wrong link above (last link given). It should be this one instead:
http://carahurley.blogspot.com/2008/03/my-mother_13.html</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blast! I just realised I gave you the wrong link above (last link given). It should be this one instead:</p><p><a
href="http://carahurley.blogspot.com/2008/03/my-mother_13.html" rel="nofollow">http://carahurley.blogspot.com/2008/03/my-mother_13.html</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Cara</title><link>http://mssinglemama.com/2008/03/30/need-a-man-look-in-mommys-bed/#comment-882</link> <dc:creator>Cara</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 01:38:01 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://mssinglemama.wordpress.com/?p=293#comment-882</guid> <description>Hun, please don&#039;t quit. It sounds like a lovely relationship on all counts.  As you have asked, I will be explicitly honest with you. I hope I do not offend you or any of your single mom friends/readers.
I think that unless the relationship has reached a stage where you have both decided that you want to commit to each other, spend the rest of your time together (married or not: please read the &#039;family&#039; section of this article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanessa_Paradis ) then ideally you should not expose the child to Kris as &#039;your boyfriend&#039; but as &#039;your friend&#039;.
This means a shift in how you conduct the relationship in front of handsome Benjamin.
Basically, ask yourself this question: &quot;Does Benjamin see my platonic male friends in my bed?&quot;
If the answer is no, then Benjamin should not be seeing Kris in your bed. Practically, due to your situation, that seems impossible, but I believe that when there is a will, there is a way and you and Kris can works something out.
Nothing is set in stone, not even marriage vows, so it would be completely foolish and naive of me to expect that the next serious relationship you enter into would last forever.  However, we sometimes know &#039;deep down&#039; (maybe due to a hunch, maybe due to many red flags we initially ignore) whether a relationship has longterm potential or not.  It is those potential longterm relationships you should be aiming for if you plan to introduce the men to Benjamin as your boyfriend/partner. Certainly not the kind of casual relationship you and Kris are currently striving for (with great difficulty it seems, bless you).
Secondly, no excessive kissy-kissy in front of Benjamin, unless you do that with your platonic male and female friends.
It is fun to get into a relationship and see how it pans out, but until such time that you AND Kris verbally commit to being together for the forseeable future, I just don&#039;t think Kris should be aware of the nature of your relationship.  Otherwise one day he might turn around and ask Kris &quot;are you my second daddy?&quot; and Kris would go bright red.
It is not fair on Benjamin to get close to Kris if he is not going to stick around, or at least FIGHT to stick around as your partner in life. If the relationship comes to an end a few years later, at least it was not a &#039;fleeting&#039; attachment for Benjamin, because those are the most damaging ones. The more &#039;loss&#039; Benjamin is exposed in terms of the men you let into your bed in front of Benjamin, who he gets to play with etc, the more likely that he his heart would harden, in order to protect himself from getting hurt again.  Until one day he finds that he is now unable to let people in, no matter how hard he tries, there is just a part of his heart that is in &#039;self protection&#039; mode.
It sounds as though you really love Kris and deep down you want him to commit to a serious, LONG TERM relationship with you.  There is no need to feel ashamed to admit this, just because that is not CURRENTLY what he wants or SEEMS able to give you. Let him grow with you and the future might be just what you are secretly hoping for with Kris.
What I have written here is based on the knowledge and experiences of several of my friends who grew up with single parents and were well adjusted vs those who were not well adjusted (some of them were ex boyfriends actually, hence the detailed inside knowledge).
x
Cara
PS: MSM, have you read that blog entry of mine? If you can, when you have time, also read this one:
http://carahurley.blogspot.com/2008/03/blog-changes.html
It&#039;s something to bear in mind about how children look back at the events that occurred during their childhood and how it shaped them into who they are.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hun, please don&#8217;t quit. It sounds like a lovely relationship on all counts.  As you have asked, I will be explicitly honest with you. I hope I do not offend you or any of your single mom friends/readers.</p><p>I think that unless the relationship has reached a stage where you have both decided that you want to commit to each other, spend the rest of your time together (married or not: please read the &#8216;family&#8217; section of this article: <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanessa_Paradis" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanessa_Paradis</a> ) then ideally you should not expose the child to Kris as &#8216;your boyfriend&#8217; but as &#8216;your friend&#8217;.</p><p>This means a shift in how you conduct the relationship in front of handsome Benjamin.</p><p>Basically, ask yourself this question: &#8220;Does Benjamin see my platonic male friends in my bed?&#8221;</p><p>If the answer is no, then Benjamin should not be seeing Kris in your bed. Practically, due to your situation, that seems impossible, but I believe that when there is a will, there is a way and you and Kris can works something out.</p><p>Nothing is set in stone, not even marriage vows, so it would be completely foolish and naive of me to expect that the next serious relationship you enter into would last forever.  However, we sometimes know &#8216;deep down&#8217; (maybe due to a hunch, maybe due to many red flags we initially ignore) whether a relationship has longterm potential or not.  It is those potential longterm relationships you should be aiming for if you plan to introduce the men to Benjamin as your boyfriend/partner. Certainly not the kind of casual relationship you and Kris are currently striving for (with great difficulty it seems, bless you).</p><p>Secondly, no excessive kissy-kissy in front of Benjamin, unless you do that with your platonic male and female friends.</p><p>It is fun to get into a relationship and see how it pans out, but until such time that you AND Kris verbally commit to being together for the forseeable future, I just don&#8217;t think Kris should be aware of the nature of your relationship.  Otherwise one day he might turn around and ask Kris &#8220;are you my second daddy?&#8221; and Kris would go bright red.</p><p>It is not fair on Benjamin to get close to Kris if he is not going to stick around, or at least FIGHT to stick around as your partner in life. If the relationship comes to an end a few years later, at least it was not a &#8216;fleeting&#8217; attachment for Benjamin, because those are the most damaging ones. The more &#8216;loss&#8217; Benjamin is exposed in terms of the men you let into your bed in front of Benjamin, who he gets to play with etc, the more likely that he his heart would harden, in order to protect himself from getting hurt again.  Until one day he finds that he is now unable to let people in, no matter how hard he tries, there is just a part of his heart that is in &#8216;self protection&#8217; mode.</p><p>It sounds as though you really love Kris and deep down you want him to commit to a serious, LONG TERM relationship with you.  There is no need to feel ashamed to admit this, just because that is not CURRENTLY what he wants or SEEMS able to give you. Let him grow with you and the future might be just what you are secretly hoping for with Kris.</p><p>What I have written here is based on the knowledge and experiences of several of my friends who grew up with single parents and were well adjusted vs those who were not well adjusted (some of them were ex boyfriends actually, hence the detailed inside knowledge).</p><p>x</p><p>Cara</p><p>PS: MSM, have you read that blog entry of mine? If you can, when you have time, also read this one:</p><p><a
href="http://carahurley.blogspot.com/2008/03/blog-changes.html" rel="nofollow">http://carahurley.blogspot.com/2008/03/blog-changes.html</a></p><p>It&#8217;s something to bear in mind about how children look back at the events that occurred during their childhood and how it shaped them into who they are.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
