As for me judging you, perhaps you should do more reading of your own, particularly in the realm of rhetoric (as well as the whole of my comments rather than just the parts you feel like paying attention to). I called you on your flawed reasoning; I did not condemn you for not living my value system (unlike you, in this post). Disagreeing with you doesn’t mean I’m judging you — it means I think you’re incorrect. I don’t blame you for supporting whoever you choose to support. However, I do blame you for making overly harsh assumptions about things you know absolutely NOTHING about. As single moms, we’re judged every day by all sorts of people, none of whom live our lives or deal with the crap we do. But that doesn’t give any of us license to do the same to others, public figure or not. And when I see someone take that license, I call them on it, loudly. Sorry, MSM, but frankly, you should strive for better than that.

As for it being impressive when a presidential candidate is raised by a single mom (and oooh, willing to admit it in public, even — how courageous!), I (once again) disagree. That fact may be a nice-to-know trivial tidbit, but guess what — being a child of a single parent isn’t that impressive. My mother was a single parent as was my partner’s mom. One of my girlfriends is a single mom, and several of my daughter’s classmates are in single parent households. So what…every year the percentage of American single parent households (compared to those of married parents) grows. I daresay, it’s getting to be far easier to be a single parent than it is to be a married one. Soon enough we’ll outnumber marrieds and watch the religious right choke their death on something real, for once. Now, if a presidential candidate talks about their experience BEING a single parent, well that might be something worth listening to. As it is…

As for Bill and Hillary, the only person Bill needed to be afraid of was Hillary when he cheated. Obviously, he wasn’t that worried about it and it wasn’t the first nor the last. Anyone who thinks that was an isolated incident is simply living in a fantasy. Just the first time it went public. Way to go Bill!

The only person I feel sorry for is their daughter. However, I do believe that Chelsea is the only thing they are together on and for that I will commend them.

Everyone has opinions and people like the President of the United States and the first lady choose to put themselves out there for public scrutiny and asked to be judged. They campagne for THE public office and promote themselves as the best people in the whole COUNTRY for the job. How do you trust someone that takes an oath of office to this country when he does not even honor his own marriage vows?

As for McClain, unless there is another blue dress with his DNA on it, its just a rumor.

“I think it’s sad that one reason you support Obama is because he presents himself well and he was raised by a single mom. Ummm…ok….that’s not how I pick my candidates for Election Day”

It’s not how I pick them either. I highlight the fact that he was raised by a single mom on this blog – b/c you know what – that’s pretty impressive and oh yeah – we’re all single moms. I only just learned this bit of his personal history recently and was a supporter of his long before that.

And I don’t know what makes you think Obama doesn’t support capitalism. You really need to catch up on your reading.

And on this comment…

“And whatever marriage means to the Clintons, it means enough for both to want to keep it going instead of just playing the divorce card.”

They CAN’T play the divorce card. That’s what I’m saying. That’s why it’s all so ridiculous and why it does affect us. Because she’s riding her husband’s coattails to get into the oval office.

Why so quick to condemn a wife who’s willing to forgive her husband who commits a publicly undesirable act? Even if we assume it’s not his first time, you don’t know what agreements they’ve worked out and for what reasons those agreements exist. Indeed, for all you know, Hillary could be far worse than Bill in the “cheating” dept — she’s just better at being discreet about it. I’m sure we’ll know more bloody details as we approach November.

At any rate, I’m just saying that the world could use a lot less judgement of people about whom we know very little. Indeed, I think it’s sad that one reason you support Obama is because he presents himself well and he was raised by a single mom. Ummm…ok….that’s not how I pick my candidates for Election Day, but I’m not you and you have your reasons for picking who you pick. Fine. But I don’t then call you out for being a “fake” American who should be exiled to France because you’re not “in love” with capitalism and all its obvious (to me) benefits. I just accept we have different ideas about our country and move on.

Clearly, marriage means something different to the Clintons than it does to you. And whatever it means to the Clintons, it means enough for both to want to keep it going instead of just playing the divorce card. Why that is, really isn’t your business and not your call to judge. Whatever her other faults, I don’t think Hillary deserves such lambasting from someone who isn’t living her life. Indeed, none of us do regardless of who we are or our marital status.

(And no, I’m not voting for her or supporting her campaign.)

Mommy Pie – yes, as I always say the Prez of the USA better be getting it from somewhere. Ha!

Jenny – I just think it’s sad that they stay together when they’re not in love. I can only challenge them to get real and leave their fake marriages.

Interesting the assumptions we make about other people’s married lives, isn’t it…. I mean, for all we know, the Clintons are probably into polyamory, so even though Bill was raked over the coals for his dalliance(s) in public, the only smack on the head he got from Hillary might have been something like “You idiot, you promised you were going to be discreet (this time)! Great, just great. Now I have to be the one to get our master socialist plan for American domination in motion. Thanks a hell of a lot Bill!”

The point being, that someone is married doesn’t automatically mean they are conventionally so (i.e., exclusive). As singles we tend to make our own rules about relationships. Well, even though there are plenty of married couples who accept the conventional package deal of marriage, I submit there are just as many who make their own rules. It’s all about knowing what your needs are and crafting the situation to have them met.

Okay, I get it. Monogamy is hard. So is mountain climbing.

That being said, why don’t more people face love as a challenge that they want to win. “I challenge you to remain faithful and in love with this person.”

Whatever happens in the race, I know I just don’t want to face another four more years of the fake family that is the Clintons. Yuck.

Very interesting…I think they’ll stay together too…until the end. I’m looking forward to their biographies revealing who their real lovers are. Should be interesting and slightly depressing.

Nevertheless, it is interesting to consider what might happen if she doesn’t win… I could easily see her blaming him for her defeat, even though he was the reason she was even in this race. I suspect, though, that they’ll stay together even after this, even though there is no longer any political reason to do so…